(WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose, FMC=
Full Metal Case, FMJ= Full Metal Jacket, JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC
indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet)
Loads for .45/70:
(Note: These are near MAXIMUM loads, you should use 10% less to start.)
(See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.)
Bullet sizes vary from .458″ for jacketed to .459″ for some lead in diameter.
Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type
and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. It is just a guide
and the reason you should start under these charges and work up.
These loads are for MODERN guns. Make sure your gun can handle it. Powder
Mfgs. Velocities in a test barrel differ from a 4 4/5″ revolver by about 175
fps and from 7 1/2″ by 50 fps. Some of these velocities were shot in a 10″ or
a 14″ barrel, similar to a Thompson Contender. Recoil is severe with these
near MAX loads. You should consider 10% less for starting loads. However, with
something like 2400, which is really a pistol powder, too little can be as
dangerous as too much. It’s a big case. With the powder down at the end near
the bullet, it can cause problems or even an explosion with minimum loads (or
less). Be advised.
Do not use any of this data with guns designed for black powder loads or any
original TRAPDOOR rifles, EXCEPT WHERE NOTED that it is a “TRAPDOOR” Load. If
condition of old gun is doubtful, even these loads could be risky. Consider
using original Black Powder loads and lead bullet for old guns.
9-9-11
300 grain lead RNFP Cowboy
Trail Boss
14.0 gr.
1199
FPS minimum
Trail Boss
16.5 gr.
1285
FPS MAXIMUM
5744
30.0 gr.
1377
Max
Varget
44.1 gr.
1372
Max
300 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point MODERN
H4198
33.0 gr.
Varget
62.0 gr.
2,090 (Compressed load)
2400
30.0 gr.
1,650
Reloader7
50.0 gr.
2,075
IMR 3031
43.0 gr.
1,410
Federal Factory load 1,674 (in Marlin Rifle) (Hi=1692, Lo=1659, ES 33.4)
340 grain LEAD HP TRAPDOOR (hot loads)
A2495BR
51.3 gr.
1,628 (start)
A2495BR
57.0 gr.
1,850 (MAX, I do not recommend)
AA 5744
30.0 gr.
1,494 (MAX) (Also HOT for old trapdoors)
AA 5744
29.0 gr.
1,348 good load
350 grain LEAD RNFP TRAPDOOR (mild loads)
AA5744
27.0 gr.
1,292(in Marlin rifle) (Hi=1328, Lo=1264, ES 64.5)
IMR 3031
36.0 gr.
1,152 (in Marlin rifle) (Hi=1260, Lo=1055, ES 205)
IMR 3031
36.0 gr.
1,154 (in TRAPDOOR rifle) (Hi=1198, Lo=1122, ES 76.3)
Trailboss Use 14 to 16 grains for 1,000 to 1,200 FPS
350 grain JSP (Jacketed Soft Point) MODERN
H4198
32.0 gr.
1,387 FPS
Varget
61.0 gr.
2,027 (Compressed load)
378-385 grain Lead MODERN
A3100
60.0 gr.
1,485
A2495
55.0 gr.
1,935
2400
25.0 gr.
1,340
Reloader7
45.0 gr.
1,810
AA 5744
28.5 gr.
1,418
378-385 grain Lead TRAPDOOR
A2495BR
45.0 gr.
1,479
(start)
A2495BR
50.0 gr.
1,681
(MAX)
A3100
50.4 gr.
1,159
(start)
A3100
56.0 gr.
1,317
(MAX)
385 grain lead RNFP (C)owboy & (N)ormal loads
Trail Boss
11.8 gr.
955 FPS
minimum (C)
Trail Boss
12.8 gr.
1,014
FPS MAXIMUM (C)
Trail Boss
14.0 gr.
1,075
FPS minimum for regular rifle (N)
Trail Boss
16.0 gr.
1,142
FPS MAXIMUM for regular rifle (N)
400 grain Jacketed Soft Point TRAPDOOR Loads
H4895
40.0 gr.
1,312
MAX
H4198
30.0 gr.
1,204
MAX
2400
22.0 gr.
954
Old Rifles*
2400
25.0 gr.
1,260
MAXIMUM
IMR4064
47.0 gr.
1,391
MAX
IMR3031
34.0 gr.
750
Old Rifles*
IMR3031
45.0 gr.
1,389
MAXIMUM
*(minimum charges in large cases can be dangerous – caution)
400 grain Jacketed Soft Point MODERN Loads
H4895
52.0 gr.
1,668
H4895
56.0 gr.
1,824
MAXIMUM
IMR4198
36.0 gr.
1,368
IMR4198
40.0 gr.
1,596
MAXIMUM
Reloader7
45.0 gr.
1,677
Reloader7
49.0 gr.
1,828
MAXIMUM
IMR4064
51.0 gr.
1,391
IMR4064
55.0 gr.
1,718
MAXIMUM
IMR3031
45.0 gr.
1,553
IMR3031
52.2 gr.
1,787
(actual in 22″ bbl) Hunting load
IMR3031
53.0 gr.
1,704
MAXIMUM
405 grain lead RNFP Cowboy
Trail Boss
12.0 gr.
971
FPS minimum
Trail Boss
13.0 gr.
1007
FPS MAXIMUM
(Note: one shooter has experimented with using up to 14.6 grains in a Marlin
and reported at this level the recoil was about the same as factory loads and
felt 14.4 was his best accuracy 100 yard load. There was still some room in
the case and likely the case would hold 15 grains of Trail Boss. These loads
are NOT recommendations, but just reports from another shooter)
405 grain LEAD MODERN Loads (Gas Check recommended)
Discussion: This is a very old cartridge. It was introduced in 1870’s in the
Springfield “Trapdoor” rifle. Do not use any of this data with guns designed
for black powder loads or any original TRAPDOOR rifles, EXCEPT WHERE NOTED
that it is a “TRAPDOOR” Load. It’s best to use new brass. Some old cartridges
also used corrosive primers. I recommend lead bullets and loads in the
neighborhood of 1100 to 1200 fps as maximum for TRAPDOOR rifles, unless you
are sure of the gun.
Bullseye, Unique, Reloader 7 thru 19 and 2400 are products of Alliant
(formerly Hercules) Powders. Universal, HP38, HS6, HS7, VARGET, H4198 and
H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. IMR 4227, IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are
products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. No.2, No. 5, No.7, No. 9,
#5744, #2230, A2495, A3100, and #2460 are products of Accurate Arms Company.
231 is a fast burning powder from Winchester.
References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet – – Alliant Powder Co.
Reloaders’ Guide (1995) – – Hodgdon’s Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) – – Speer
Reloading Manual, #12 – – Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition
– – Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. – – VihtaVuori Oy
Company,reloading booklet (1995) – – Numerous magazine articles on reloading
special calibers and personal loads where noted.
MD Smith
MD Smith has had a storied career from his family broadcasting AM radio business, to his 36 year career in TV broadcasting. He is a published fiction and non-fiction writer, earned his pilots license in 1965, and is the original founder of Reload Ammo in 1996. His loads have been successfully tested and used by others for more than 25 years.
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Question?
I have used unique powder for years in large caliber rifles with light cast loads
Had to find now.
What are my replacement options, a powder that is not position sensitive?
Something like HP38?
Thanks
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One Response
Question?
I have used unique powder for years in large caliber rifles with light cast loads
Had to find now.
What are my replacement options, a powder that is not position sensitive?
Something like HP38?
Thanks